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1 Max upload size has increased to 5 GiB 6 4 Bawolff 2024-02-22 22:45
2 Youtube removed CC attributions in Sept 2021 - how to handle verification 2 2 PantheraLeo1359531 2024-02-19 13:29
3 Is https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ OK to upload 3 3 Ooligan 2024-02-20 16:54
4 File overwriting not allowed 3 2 Lambiam 2024-02-19 09:10
5 Can someone merge these two templates per discussion? 3 2 PARAKANYAA 2024-02-20 15:39
6 Deleting redirects 5 4 Jeff G. 2024-02-20 12:10
7 RfC {{User Mentorship}} 1 1 Yug 2024-02-20 08:16
8 TIFF size on LoC 5 3 Yann 2024-02-22 15:33
9 Large but corrupted vs small but good 5 4 RZuo 2024-02-23 08:26
10 Rename request declined 9 6 Sm faysal 2024-02-23 01:39
11 Why doesn't commons have a mass message sender user right? 2 2 GPSLeo 2024-02-21 20:00
12 Scammers using military pics from Wikipedia to scam women out of their money 2 2 Jarekt 2024-02-22 04:48
13 Photo challenge December results 3 3 Pigsonthewing 2024-02-22 14:37
14 The way to upload images via Flickr is completely broken 5 4 Samwilson 2024-02-24 02:28
15 Update Wikimedia Commons' default markup for 'Use this image' 2 2 Bjh21 2024-02-22 18:58
16 Fusion 1 1 Io Herodotus 2024-02-22 15:26
17 Template:NKC 3 3 Pigsonthewing 2024-02-24 17:00
18 Bulk category renames 6 3 Heroldicas 2024-02-25 20:33
19 Huge amount of problematic name categories 1 1 StarTrekker 2024-02-24 22:39
20 Car identification? 3 3 From Hill To Shore 2024-02-25 15:53
21 Trains that run on roads 3 2 Sbb1413 2024-02-25 16:00
22 Can I make categories for characters in my own art, or similar 3 3 Adamant1 2024-02-26 13:59
23 Disappearing of sound in video files 1 1 Sneeuwschaap 2024-02-25 19:46
24 Local knowledge of Bradford? 2 2 From Hill To Shore 2024-02-26 19:49
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February 13 edit

Max upload size has increased to 5 GiB edit

Just a heads up, the maximum upload size is now 5 GiB. This only applies to server side upload and chunked upload including UploadWizard and scripts like User:Rillke/bigChunkedUpload.js. Chunked upload has a reputation for being flaky for very large uploads, so your mileage may vary if trying to upload a very large file. It does not affect uploads done via Special:Upload which still has a max size of 100MB. Technically the change also applies to upload by url, but I suspect uploads of this size would hit a timeout when using that method. Happy uploading. Bawolff (talk) 08:44, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

And for context on the limits. 4GB was a MediaWiki technical limitation that is now solved. 5GB is a storage layer technical limitation which we cannot surpass without significant reworking of the storage layer, which isn't likely to happen any time soon. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 09:46, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks to both of you for this update. --Ooligan (talk) 17:02, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ever for 2GB its just not working. Im very tired of upload wizard, years with the same situation --Wilfredor (talk) 21:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Indeed. Chunked upload has been very flaky for large files since basically when it was introduced. I can understand how its pretty frustrating. I've been trying to investigate what's going wrong with it, but no promises. Server side uploads can be an option if you absolutely can't get normal uploads to work. Bawolff (talk) 07:01, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Wilfredor We just deployed a fix that we are hopeful might fix the "The file mwstore://local-swift-codfw/local-temp/... does not exist." errors. [Edit: Looks like i spoke too soon, we are still working on it...] There could still be other errors (Or we might be wrong about the cause of this one), but if you want, consider trying uploading some large files to see if it works better now, and let me know the result. Bawolff (talk) 22:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February 14 edit

Is https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ OK to upload edit

This licence https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ is applied to this picture [1]. I know I should know/understand the answer to this question, but is it OK to upload a picture here with this licence? I have to be absolutely sure I have this correct. ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 22:24, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes. See COMM:LICENSE. (At least, yes the license is okay, it also needs to meet the rest of our scope, etc.) —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Here is the link about files being within "scope " here on Commons: COM:Scope --Ooligan (talk) 16:54, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can someone merge these two templates per discussion? edit

{{PD-CCTV}} should be merged into {{PD-automated}} per this discussion. Thanks! PARAKANYAA (talk) 13:35, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deleting redirects edit

Hello, I had a few redirects made due to files being renamed. These redirects provide no usefulness as there are no pages linking to these. I would like to have them deleted. Is there any speedy deletion tags for useless redirects? Thank you. Jerium (talk) 23:35, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How long did those files exist under their old names? If they were licensed under Creative Commons, any external users will be obliged to include a link to them. Redirects are a cheap way to maintain the validity of external reusers' content. From Hill To Shore (talk) 23:41, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
All I upload are barnstars for the English Wikipedia. Sometimes, their name will change depending on the criteria changing. Many barnstars the I've made have not been used yet. Jerium (talk) 23:46, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion criterion G2. - Jmabel ! talk 23:54, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jerium: File renamers follow "When in doubt, leave a redirect." per the COM:FR#Leaving redirects guideline.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:10, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RfC {{User Mentorship}} edit

See also Category:Userbox ability templates (statistics), Category:Mentorship, etc.
 This user mentors Univòc64 .
 This user is mentored by Yug.

Hello all, I noticed the lack of identifiable structure for onboarding, mentorship, apprenticeship on Commons. We do have declarative Category:Userbox ability templates, but the space seemed empty for declarative mentorship (I may have missed existing elements). Also, I would like to announce the creation of {{User Mentorship}}, a template to announce mentorship relationships. This template has been created yesterday and needs community ideas, on proper English (I'm non-native), wording, translations, code, design, merging with existing similar template (?), etc. It allows to declare your mentor or your apprentice (parameter mentoree?). As the template is currently just used twice, every things including name, parameters, can be changed if necessary. Also, with this Request for Comments we welcome your reviews. :) Yug (talk) 08:16, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February 21 edit

TIFF size on LoC edit

Hi, Does anyone know why the TIFF size on the Library of Congress doesn't always match, i.e. [2] and [3]. The announced size is 237 kB, while the real size is 122.88 MB, i.e. File:Yonkers, New York. Mrs. Garrity hanging the wash LCCN2017833878.tif and here. It would be good to know if higher resolution is available. Yann (talk) 11:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Yann: You could ask a librarian here.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, done. Yann (talk) 17:51, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Interestingly, the old version of File:Yonkers,_New_York._Mrs._Garrity_hanging_the_wash_LCCN2017833878.tif is exactly 237kb. If i were to guess, maybe they originally had a smaller version, and then updated it to a newer higher resolution version, but failed to update the metadata. Bawolff (talk) 07:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, that's it. I already got an answer. Wow! They are fast! The LoC is in process of "re-scanning images so that those files that actually have the <1MB TIFs will be replaced with large TIFs". Very well! Yann (talk) 15:33, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Large but corrupted vs small but good edit

File:Front facade of the Academy of Athens.jpg has a larger resolution but is corrupted.

File:Front Facade of the Academy of Athens.jpg is smaller but no glitch.

what to do? delete the big one? or crop the big one to remove the glitch and then delete the small one? RZuo (talk) 11:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

In what way is it corrupted? Both files appear the same (except available resolutions) on my device. From Hill To Shore (talk) 14:13, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@From Hill To Shore: The larger one suffers from significant jpg compression when expanded to full size. Considering the warning label that was applied in 2019, unless someone objects I'll process as CSD:F7. Huntster (t @ c) 14:27, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think you mean distorted instead of corrupted. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 19:12, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
it's corrupted due to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T266903 . RZuo (talk) 08:26, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Rename request declined edit

I requested renaming of File:Logo of Kyrgyz Latin Wikipedia SVG.svg but User:Rachmat04 has reverted because does not comply with renaming guidelines. What guideline I broke? Let me know and understand, please! 2001:B07:6442:8903:915:811E:D744:DF76 11:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, and welcome. You did not provide a rationale number (in {{Rename}} required parameter 2, see Template:Rename/doc). Pinging @Rachmat04 as declining renamer, who could have indicated that.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You've now cited criterion 4, which applies in two cases: when there is a complex template or external site that requires a particular naming convention, and when the file is part of a larger work that should appear together in lists and categories. It's not obvious how either of those applies to this file, so it would help if you could expand the request to indicate why there's a requirement for this file to have its name harmonized with others. --bjh21 (talk) 18:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pinging @Bjh21 if you watch Category:SVG Localized Wikipedia globe logos (2010) you can notice that the standard name is Wikipedia-logo-v2-[language].svg. What else is there to do more than that? 2001:B07:6442:8903:59DC:599A:8D5B:FACB 11:06, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As the footnote COM:FR#cite_note-4 says: "Just because images share a category does not mean that they are part of a set." So you need to demonstrate why it's necessary for the file to have a particular name. Though actually in this case I notice it's quite a recent upload so maybe the uploader Sm faysal would like to ask for renaming under the much more lenient criterion 1? --bjh21 (talk) 19:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bjh21: https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Wikimedia_trademarks//Word_mark_creation
At section “Preparing files for upload” near the end of page it is wrote: “Name your file like this: "Wikipedia-logo-v2-" + language Code”. I think this should be enough… 95.74.56.170 19:40, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Strictly that only appears in the instructions for making a PNG version, not an SVG version. But I think that combined with its being a very recent upload makes me inclined to move it. --bjh21 (talk) 20:13, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Moved. --bjh21 (talk) 20:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bjh21 I have no issue if it is renamed. Thanks Sm faysal (talk) 01:39, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why doesn't commons have a mass message sender user right? edit

On enwiki, there is a user right that allows people to use Special:MassMessage. I've used it to send invitations to Wikimedia New York City events, for example. I'm curious why it doesn't exist on Commons (the massmessage function is restricted to admins)? — Rhododendrites talk19:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The tool is not used that often that asking an admin for every time it is needed was a problem in the past. GPSLeo (talk) 20:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February 22 edit

Scammers using military pics from Wikipedia to scam women out of their money edit

There's various men or maybe it's the same one and they are using US military men photos of this website and then creating FB profiles impersonating various generals from this site. I did a Google lens search and it brought me here from the pic the guys were using on FB when trying to contact women on FB hoping to establish a friendship/relationship using these men's military profiles from this site. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 104.157.160.175 (talk) 00:50, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That is a sad story, but scammers can be very crafty. By the way, we pull US military photos from US military websites where they are aviable for everybody, so the scammers could be getting them from there, but they might be easier to find here. --Jarekt (talk) 04:48, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You could ask FaceBook to check, if profile pictures of Facebook profiles are images that have been published online at Flickr, the NASA archives, US Government sites, or thousends of other sites that offer free images. In fact Facebook has downloaded all the files when Facebook created its Llama LLM. And Facebook could then block these profiles. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 04:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Photo challenge December results edit

Congratulations to Mensch01, Lusi Lindwurm, Kora27, Hgrobe, Горбунова М.С. and Ermell. -- Jarekt (talk) 03:58, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As an aside, I love fossil fuels as a sort of out of the box challenge category. Concrete enough that the photos are thematically linked, but with enough flexibility that the category can be interpreted in different ways. Bawolff (talk) 07:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Templates disabled (see Commons:Photo challenge/2023 - December - Fossil fuel/Winners & Commons:Photo challenge/2023 - December - In a box/Winners). Please find a way to display images (a gallery tag, perhaps) without introducing horizontal scrolling. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:37, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The way to upload images via Flickr is completely broken edit

At present, all methods of uploading images through Flickr have been completely damaged, and video content from Flickr cannot be uploaded through V2C, and errors have been reported.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fumikas Sagisavas (talk • contribs) 06:31, 22 February 2024‎ (UTC)Reply[reply]

Did you try Flickypedia? Pyb en résidence (talk) 08:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Flickypedia works for me, but Special:UploadWizard has been failing all day for Flickr uploads, just getting stuck on the Submitting details… spinner with no error message or timeout. Belbury (talk) 15:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've used Flickr2Commons within the last 36 hours or so. Is that now failing? - Jmabel ! talk 23:15, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Flickr2Commons works fine for me, Special:UploadWizard is still failing. Belbury (talk) 18:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've opened phab:T358414. Sam Wilson 02:28, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Update Wikimedia Commons' default markup for 'Use this image' edit

Nothing has happened with the above ticket, in over a year. How do we get changes made to Commons' default markup for 'Use this image?

Bu way of explanation, the default markup provided by the "Use this file" link on the toolbar, for File:Aris’s_Birmingham_Gazette - 1771-11-11 - p1.jpg for example, is:

[[File:Aris’s Birmingham Gazette - 1771-11-11 - p1.jpg|thumb|Aris’s Birmingham Gazette - 1771-11-11 - p1]]

The right hand part of this ("|Aris’s Birmingham Gazette - 1771-11-11 - p1]]") repeats the filename. It should instead (where available) use the caption from the file's structured data, in the user's preferred language:

[[File:Aris’s Birmingham Gazette - 1771-11-11 - p1.jpg|thumb|front page masthead of Aris’s Birmingham Gazette, 11 November 1771 edition]]

This applies to all the applicable markup snippets under each of the "Use this file" links on a file page; for example the non-thumbnail wiki markup and the alt attribute under "Embed this file". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:30, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've replied to the discussion on MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Stockphoto.js#Default markup for 'Use this image' is suboptimal. --bjh21 (talk) 18:58, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Fusion edit

Is is possible to merge File:Capital punishment in the world Zim.svg with File:Capital punishment in the world.svg ? Io Herodotus (talk) 15:26, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February 24 edit

Template:NKC edit

It looks like we have exactly one file that uses Template:NKC. I would think it is something that should be used either far more widely or not at all, but I don't know which. - Jmabel ! talk 04:13, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That seems like an inappropriately vague license statement. (More of a non-statement, really.) If we can confirm that this photo is PD-US, we should say so; if we can't, we shouldn't be hosting it. Omphalographer (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I agree. I have made the template emit Category:No known copyright, for now. Note some prior discussion, at Commons:Village pump/Copyright/Archive/2022/08, in the (unlinkable?) section {{NKC}} template for review. Pinging @Dominic, Jarekt, and Beireke1: , who were involved in that discussion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:00, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bulk category renames edit

Hello friends! I have been active on Wikipedia Commons for several years. My activity mainly revolves around Category:Noble families of Poland and concerns taking care of the aesthetics of this category, appropriately placing files in subcategories, etc. Before I started dealing with this category, many names were written in a random form, so for aesthetic reasons I chose the form "XYZ family" in the category naming (example: Category:Ankwicz family).

After some time, I realized that it was my mistake and I shouldn't have named these categories that way. People notoriously confuse families of noble descent with regular families with the same surname and mix up files related to the different types of families with the same surname.

Since changing these categories manually will take me a lot of time, I am writing here to ask for help. Could someone help me with changing the category names from the form "XYZ family" to the form "House of XYZ" (example: Category:Ankwicz family reduced to Category:House of Ankwicz)?

Category:Noble families of Russia has been using the "House of XYZ" provisions for a long time and in my opinion this is the best possible option to achieve order and aesthetics.

Thank you for understanding and for help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heroldicas (talk • contribs) 10:48, 24 February 2024‎ (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Heroldicas: Didn't we already have this discussion elsewhere? And I told you how to do it on a semi-automated basis? - Jmabel ! talk 17:28, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems#Technical_Wishes. Please don't ask the same question multiple places, especially without indicating you are doing so. - Jmabel ! talk 17:36, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I followed your suggestions. I wrote a request in the place you indicated, but the admin deleted it. That's why I'm writing here. Heroldicas (talk) 00:41, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I tried again. Maybe this time it will work. Heroldicas (talk) 20:33, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

In other countries it has been "Category:XYZ noble family" See: Category:Cronman noble family. --RAN (talk) 02:48, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This name isn't bad either. However, it seems to me that due to the specification of the names of Polish categories and their length, it might not be appropriate. Heroldicas (talk) 11:38, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Huge amount of problematic name categories edit

The user @JuTa seems to have created dozens upon dozens of name categories for names that are not actual names, for example there are tons of categories for "compound" names which are really just a string of given names used by a single person ever, like Category:Johan Marie Jacques Hubert (given name) (and in some cases a couple of given names + a surname treated as a given name such as Category:Marie Therese Nordsletta (given name)), as well as creating surname categories for surnames + initials like Category:Y Goud (surname), and in the case of Category:Yashki(surname) (which I moved to Category:Yashki (surname) 3 years after it was created) I'm not even sure the person who wears it has it as a family name (I'm not overly familiar with how Indian names work). It seems to me like JaTu doesn't understand naming conventions of different cultures and many of the categories they have created are really problematic, but I don't know how to take care of all of them. StarTrekker (talk) 22:39, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February 25 edit

Car identification? edit

Hi, Any idea what are these cars? Thanks, Yann (talk) 12:30, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ford's it says so on their radiator Oxyman (talk) 14:39, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
They look like variations of the Ford Model T. See Category:Ford Model T trucks for some similar looking configurations. From Hill To Shore (talk) 15:53, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Trains that run on roads edit

 

How to categorize this train-like vehicle that runs on paths like Road vehicles? Sbb1413 (he) (talkcontribs) 15:34, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Trackless trains Oxyman (talk) 15:57, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. I've categorized the image under Trackless trains in India. Sbb1413 (he) (talkcontribs) 16:00, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can I make categories for characters in my own art, or similar edit

 

I am an ai artist and I want to upload a lot of my art here. I uploaded one already see here but I would like to categorize all my ai art into a category, and categorize all my andromeda pics into one category. Am I allowed to do this? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 18:16, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please dont. This is not a free AI art repository Trade (talk) 19:37, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
+1 to what Trade said. Even if Commons was a free AI art repository its not the best place for it anyway. You should really give Flickr a try if you haven't already though. They are super friendly to AI artwork and you'd have better control over your own images anyway. Plus its cool to have stats and groups specifically for AI artwork. That's where I host my AI artwork at and it has a lot of advantage to Commons. --Adamant1 (talk) 13:59, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Disappearing of sound in video files edit

In the last few days, newly uploaded videos lack sound (an example). It appears only if you set "source" in the player settings. This does not concern files, uploaded in previous times (an example). The same bug concerns files, uploaded in ru-wiki (topic). Sneeuwschaap (talk) 19:46, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February 26 edit

Local knowledge of Bradford? edit

I uploaded two pictures, yesterday, the first is a view of Bradford here, and shortly after it another view here, before I realized they are in fact the same view, with one flipped.

Obviously the one from ArtUK is probably the correct view, but it's not a given. Can someone, with local knowledge clarify this. So I can flip the erroneous image?

What would be nice is to sort out the landmark spires in the picture and the map co-ordinates of the view too. Broichmore (talk) 19:31, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Broichmore: I'm not local to Bradford but one of the churches resembles this one built in 1815. It has since been demolished but (according to this YouTube video (at 1:14)) it stood on Rawson Square. From Hill To Shore (talk) 19:49, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February 27 edit